WebLoyalty.com aka WLI*ReservationRewards Is A Scam

Update August 9, 2009: Absurdly high number of comments and hits on this page. The latest is reported in this CNET article.

Update March 8, 2009: 2,653 comments. Plus, there has been a settlement of the class action lawsuit: Webloyalty Settlement.

Update September 13, 2006: Webloyalty… sued.

Update May 7, 2006: I get a lot of email asking me “how do I get them to stop charging me?” My entry below, and about 1,000 of the comments, tell you how, but here’s the short version: call 800-732-7031 and tell them you want all your money back. Do not give up until they refund all of it.

Update July 25, 2006: Nearly 1,300 comments and counting…


I recently noticed a charge on my credit card bill for “WLI*RESERVATIONREWARDS 800-7327031” CT for $9. I had no idea what the charge was, so I called 1-800-732-7031 and finally figured it out. Below is a slightly edited letter I’ve sent to the Massachusetts Attorney General Consumer Protection office. If nothing else, I hope this weblog entry shows up on a search for this company, the phone number, or Vincent D’Agostino (the President of the company) and Mary O’Reilly (the customer service director). (My apologies to any Vincent D’Agostinos or Mary O’Reillys out there who aren’t related to this scam).

On November 2, 2004, I purchased airline tickets from the website onetravel.com.

On my most recent credit card bill, I noticed a charge for $9 for a transaction on 12/2 posted on 12/5 for WLI*RESERVATIONREWARDS 800-7327031 CT. I had no idea what the charge was, and was certain I hadn’t signed up for any “reservation rewards” program, so I did a web search for the phone number for the item. Apparently, many other people have had the same exact charge for the same item without ever having ordered it.

I called the company to dispute the charge, and they insisted that I had signed up for some kind of rewards service when I purchased airline tickets. I insisted that I had never signed up for any such service, but they claimed they had sent me three emails confirming the service, which apparently is a monthly subscription for $9 per month which gives you discounts on some products or services online.

When I complained that I was sure I had never signed up for any such service, they said that they had “millions of satisfied customers” and that the complaints were just a few.

Since I maintain my own mail server, I was able to search back over the last 60 days of mail logs, and there was no record of any email originating from this company. Even if such an email had been caught by a spam filter, it would still show up in the mail log. I am thus certain that they never sent any confirmation emails.

Finally, I threatened to contact my state attorney general, and at that point they agreed to refund the $9 and cancel my subscription.

I checked the Connecticut Better Business Bureau website for this company, which goes under a dozen aliases, and saw that there have been many complaints along similar lines.

I am a computer programmer and intellectual property attorney specializing in Internet law, and thus I am not a naive Internet consumer—while I realize that some people may accidentally sign up for services they didn’t intend to purchase, I am certain that I never did this. I believe this company is operating fraudulently, and their “millions of satisfied customers” are people who do not scrutinize their credit card bills carefully, since a $9 charge is easy to miss.

I would like the Consumer Protection division of the Attorney General’s Office to look into this problem as I am sure it affects many Massachusetts Citizens.

Please don’t hesitate to contact me for more information. The Connecticut Better Business Bureau also lists the following address for the company in question:

Webloyalty.com, Inc.
101 Merritt Seven, 7th Floor (Corporate Offices)
Norwalk, CT 06851

This doesn’t speak very well of onetravel.com, although I hear expedia.com and other providers have similar dealings with webloyalty.com.

I’d like to think the web could ultimately prevent more fraud than it enables, but at this point I think the prognosis is bleak. Leave a comment below if you’ve had a similar experience with this company.

Update: This site includes dozens—maybe hundreds—of reports of the same problem with this company.

Living With The Beast

I have to concur with John Faughnan, who writes the following about Microsoft Word:

Microsoft Word is a beast. Word is an evolved creation, the bastard offspring of marketing, some original thoughts on how to create a word processor, and generations of Ziff-Davis (PC Magazine) induced rapid mutation to fit someone’s distorted checklist. It is to software as the Irish Elk was to mammals. It is an inherently incurable mass of contradictory impulses, which are fully evident in Word’s formatting model. It is the single most miserable piece of software that I absolutely must use.

I just spent a couple of hours trying to figure out how to remove a phantom footnote. The footnote had no content. Moreover, it had no “anchor”—nowhere in the body of my document was there any footnote reference. This empty footnote just sat at the bottom of page 3, and refused to be deleted.

Finally, I figured out what the problem was. “Track changes” was on, and an old version of the document had a footnote. (I actually had cleared the document, so there was nothing left from the ‘original’ version). Apparently Word can’t let go of an old footnote even if the reference to the footnote has been deleted so long as it is trying to remember what text you deleted so it can show you the changes you made. The only way, apparently, to actually delete the footnote is to “accept all changes” so the document history goes away. Of course, if you aren’t in a redlined view (to see the original with changes) you’ll have no idea why that footnote is just hanging out on the bottom of the page.

I can’t believe this is anything but a bug, but I’m open to constructive comments as to why this behavior might be desirable.

(Please don’t leave me a comment telling me to use OpenOffice. If I had any choice about it at all I would certainly be using that. It’s not that there are features I need in Word that aren’t in OpenOffice—it’s just that, in the current circumstances, I have no choice about my software.)

U-Haul Sucks

Given the great success of my Hotmail sucks blog entry (number four in google at the time of this writing), I thought I’d take a stab at U-Haul. My writing doesn’t appear to have had a huge impact on Microsoft, but maybe I can start a movement with U-Haul. (Query whether blogs can help fix market dysfunction).

My experience with U-Haul has been bad. I don’t quite understand how they can continue to exist as a company.

I needed to rent a small truck for a day to move a couch a couple of months ago. I only needed it for a Saturday, and U-Haul was the only option that would let me do a one-day rental on the weekend and return the truck in a fairly convenient location. (For a rental starting on a weekday, I recommend Penske, which has never caused me any problems.)

The first thing I discovered is that you can’t actually “reserve” a truck with U-Haul. Instead, you “request” a truck. Although the email confirmation comes from “reservations@uhaul.com” it includes the following disclaimer:

Your pickup location is a PREFERENCE ONLY. The U-Haul regional office for LYNN, MA is now in charge of your reservation. They will call you by 5PM on the day prior to your pickup date to schedule your exact pickup location and time. To change or cancel your reservation, please contact us no later than the day prior to your pickup date. Our phone number is (800)344-2212. Reservations cancelled on the day of pickup are subject to a $50 cancellation fee.

So they won’t guarantee you any pickup location, but they will charge you a $50 day fee if you decide the location they pick for you doesn’t work. What if airlines worked this way? “We’re sorry, your ticket to leave from Boston was only a request; your flight is actually going to take off from Providence.”

It strikes me as terrifically poor logistics that they can’t figure out which trucks will be at which locations until the end of the day prior to the rental. I’ve heard stories of people thinking they had a secure reservation on U-Haul and in fact ending up with nothing at all the day they needed to move. I suggest that if U-Haul (1) shouldn’t allow people to reserve trucks it doesn’t have and (2) should be willing to drive trucks where they need to go the night before if they figure out they don’t have the trucks at the correct location. Others have complained similary about U-Haul’s lack of dependability in this area.

As a side note, their price scheme is screwy: it’s cheaper to do a one day one-way rental across a 20 mile area rather than a one day round-trip “in city” rental. Someone at the pickup location told me that this was because they had recently raised their round-trip prices but the one-way prices hadn’t caught up. I suppose this wasn’t a big problem for me, but it does encourage irrational behavior (choosing different pick up and drop off locations) and reflects poorly on U-Haul’s corporate intelligence.

The day before the rental, I got a call telling me I could pick the truck up, and they gave me an address. A while later, I checked the address on Mapquest, and it was nowhere to be found. So I used the caller ID memory on my cell phone and called the place back to ask them exactly where they were. It turns out they were not in Lynn, but in Lowell, which would have been about an hour out of my way (for a 15 mile rental!).

I called back the national office and they were a little confused about the difference between Lynn and Lowell, but ended up switching me to a pickup location in Lynn. (The pickup location I had originally requested in Lynn apparently doesn’t exist at all).

In any case, we got the truck, which was in shoddy condition—poor shocks, dirty cab area, and a non-adjustable radio (no cassette or CD, of course). In fact, after I tried changing the channel on the radio too much, it turned off entirely and refused to turn back on.

At the end of the day, I went to return the truck at the destination location, which was supposed to be a Texaco in Roslindale. As it turns out, there was no Texaco in Roslindale. I called the national phone number, and they were rude and unhelpful. They kept insisting that the truck needed to be returned to the Texaco in Roslindale. They also told me that there would be a fee for dropping off the truck after 5pm, so instead I should wait until the next morning so I wouldn’t have to pay the fee. (So, I return the truck later, and pay less?)

The next day I discovered the gas station, which was no longer a Texaco, where the truck was supposed to be returned. I didn’t bring my contract with me, as I assumed these days everything is computerized. When do you actually need physical pieces of paper anymore?

The drop-off location would not, in fact, accept the truck without the contract, and said I would have to go to a location about 5 miles away if I didn’t have the contract, because they had no computer at their location. Huh?

So I went home and got the contract, returned the truck, and thought that was the end of the sad sad story.

Skip forward a couple of months. I just notice an additional $150 charge from U-Haul on my most recent credit card bill, charged from a U-Haul store in Somerville exactly a week ago. I haven’t set foot (or car) in Somerville for months, so I was sure it was a mistake, maybe someone gave the wrong credit card number to the Somerville U-Haul or they made a typo.

So I called the Somerville U-Haul. They told me they couldn’t help me; I would have to call an 800 number. I called the 800 number, and they told me that number was for emergencies only and gave me another 800 number to call. I called that number and they told me “they only deal with trucks” and I would have to call my regional 800 number. So I called my regional 800 number and they asked me what my reservation number was. I told them I didn’t have a reservation number, I had a billing complaint. So they told me to call the national something number. I called that number and they told me I had to call the Somerville U-Haul.

At this point, I told them I had just called five numbers, and they were trying to send me back where I started.

Finally, they agreed to hear my issue. I explained that I had a charge on my credit card from one week ago from the Somerville U-Haul, where I had never set foot in my life. They brought up some records on their computer system, and insisted that what had happened was that I had rented the truck two months ago and kept it until last week, at which time I had returned it to the Somerville U-Haul.

I explained to them that I had actually returned the truck less than 24 hours after I rented it, to the Roslindale “Texaco.” The person on the other insisted (1) that my one way rental was from Lynn to Somerville, not Roslindale, and (2) that I had kept the truck for two months. She also insisted that the only way to resolve this was to call the Somerville U-Haul, where I had started. She was absolutely convinced that there was no way the computer could be wrong. (Wouldn’t you think they might have asked for their truck back if I had kept it an extra two months without asking?)

After a few more rounds of the same conversation, she finally put me on hold to talk with her supervisor. A few minutes later, she returned and said that “the computer had crashed” in Roslindale and they had lost all the information. There was a note that someone was supposed to call me about this more recent charge, but apparently no one had. She told me she would fix it, and within a week the credit card would be refunded.

It’s hard for me to believe that this operation survives at all. There must be other people who were also in the “computer that crashed” who were charged for returning vehicles two months late that they had actually returned on time. It didn’t sound like U-Haul was going to do anything to try to locate those people; instead it was just going to wait and see if they would complain.

If anybody reading this has any connections with management at U-Haul, I’d suggest you pass this blog entry on to them. Although some of the problems I experienced may have been anomalies, many of these issues are clearly systemic. If U-Haul ever stops sucking, I will at that point correct this entry.

(finally, I am perhaps not the first person to think of this. We have out there uhaul-sucks.com, “UHaul Sucks”, dontuseuhaul.com, etc..). In fact, I think U-Haul maybe even knows it sucks, since it owns uhaulsucks.com—I was going to link to the whois information for uhaulsucks.com, but all of the whois servers now apparently require you to type in the numbers in a graphic image first).

(update: #6 in google at this time)

Updates 1/22/05: whois information for uhaulsucks.com without captcha, thanks to Benjamin Carrell; #7 in google for ‘uhaul sucks’—and, amazingly, #8 in google for ‘u-haul’, #7 in yahoo for ‘u-haul’. See also this more recent discussion.

Business Lessons

Jason Kottke has a funny little story about his neighborhood coffee & donut man:

“Next!” said the coffee & donut man (who I’ll refer to as “Ralph”) from his tiny silver shop-on-wheels, one of many that dot Manhattan on weekday mornings. I stepped up to the window, ordered a glazed donut (75 cents), and when he handed it to me, handed a dollar bill back through the window. Ralph motioned to the pile of change scattered on the counter and hurried on to the next customer, yelling “Next!” over my shoulder. I put the bill down and grabbed a quarter from the pile.

Read the rest of his piece, with which I heartily agree. There are so many times when businesses, with an instinct to always seek more control of their employees and customers, end up shooting themselves in the foot.

Recently, I went to Au Bon Pain [which is unfortunately convenient to my law school] at 6:02pm (5:58pm on my watch). They have a “happy hour” from 4pm-6pm, during which all baked goods are half price. It’s the only time anything is reasonably priced.

I tried to buy an assiago cheese bagel ($0.45 at half price) and they told me I was too late. It was 6:02pm. Rules are rules.

I protested, but they held firm. Meanwhile, an employee was going through the store with a large trash bag, throwing away all the baked goods. Several dozen assiaga cheese bagels in the trash.

So instad of making $0.45 off of me, they got nothing. I bet Kottke’s coffee & donut man would have sold me the bagel.

Crushed

Peru’s state property rights agency on Tuesday crushed 50,000 pirated music CDs with a steamroller on a Lima street as part of a plan to deter a rampant trade in counterfeit goods. Musicians and singers danced atop the pile of thousands of compact discs protesting pirating that the government says inhibits artistic creativity and starves a cash-strapped state of needed taxes.

Peru has gone on the offensive against piracy. Not only did the steamroller destroy CDs and videos, but also chewing gum. Pirated chewing gum? I suppose they’re talking about trademark or trade dress infringement, but unless the chewing gum is actually stolen (of which there’s no indication), it seems a little silly to steamroll it. In fact, even if it were stolen, steamrolling wouldn’t be the best option. Wouldn’t it jam up the roller?

But what do I know?

The article also claims that the steamrolling saved the industry $750,000. This probably means that the materials destroyed, had they been sold at monopoly prices (i.e., by the copyright holders), would have resulted in profits of $750,000. Of course, just given simple economics, there’s no way the same quantity of stuff would have been sold at the higher price. Nor is there anything to suggest that destroying this pile of stuff made an appreciable dent in the supply of pirated goods. It’s all faintly reminiscent of the drug busts that occur on a daily basis here in the United States.

But there’s got to be some better solution than this.

The Office of Information Awareness

Be afraid. Be very afraid. Total Information Awareness may be coming soon to a theatre near you.

There’s a lot of rhetoric around “TIA”, including William Safire’s slightly misleading editorial “You Are a Suspect” in today’s New York Times (use this to anonymize your registration). The scariest thing, I think, is not that this system might work, but that it might even be attempted. Although it would certainly further compromise our eroding constitutional (privacy) rights, it would also represent a terrible waste of money and security resources.

Although I would have preferred for Minority Report to answer the question, “Would we want a system of total surveillance if it worked perfectly?”, instead it answered the question, “Would we want a system of total surveillance if it made errors?” The first question is more difficult, the second more realistic. And it’s this latter question that applies particularly to Admiral John Poindexter’s “Total Information Awareness” and related programs. This technology may work fairly well in Hollywood, but in practice, has anyone ever maintained a database even remotely this large with any semblance of accuracy?

The Office of Information Awareness sounds an awful lot like the Office of Information Retrieval to me.